Women must not instruct men, even by singing a theocratic song.

[TrueTomHarley]

5 minutes ago, Anna said:

He said he's never known in his life any sister to be bothered about telling people what to do. Everyone cracked up and agreed.

I like the guy already.

[Anna]

2 minutes ago, TrueTomHarley said:

I like the guy already.

I think you'd get on really well. At the mid week meeting last week I asked him what was so outstanding about Bathsheba. He said she was out, standing under the shower.

[JW Insider]

8 minutes ago, Anna said:

He said he's never known in his life any sister to be bothered about telling people what to do.

I can imagine a situation where it was a sister's fault that the entire songbook had to be updated again. And, although it's pure speculation, it wouldn't be the first time something like this happened. They say it was a sister who got celebrating anniversaries approved. They say it was a sister who got the idea of approving multiple blood fractions. Ultimately it was a sister (Audrey Mock) who got the rule changed at Bethel that if a brother got married, he had to leave Bethel.

In this case, imagine a brother as high up in the hierarchy as the Governing Body itself who has a wife. Now every time this wife sees her husband glancing for too long at a younger sister she knows she can't say anything directly, so she just starts humming the tune of: "O Guard Your Heart, you . . . "  After all, these songs have become the playlist of our lives, and I must have a thousand triggers that immediately get me to start humming any one of a hundred different Kingdom Songs.

[JW Insider]

10 minutes ago, Anna said:

He said she was out, standing under the shower.

They also say that David, as a shepherd, was out-standing in his field.

[TrueTomHarley]

10 minutes ago, JW Insider said:

And, although it's pure speculation, it wouldn't be the first time something like this happened.

Let there be no doubt as to who runs the show. Delilah harps on something day and night and Samson will do whatever he must. It works in settings good and bad.

21 minutes ago, Anna said:

At the mid week meeting last week I asked him what was so outstanding about Bathsheba. He said she was out, standing under the shower.

While I would not speak so at the Kingdom all, and neither would he, there is a time a place, and sometimes we can get wound up too tight.

If your husband was a news figure in this day and age, his career would now be over. No matter how 'unreasonable' God's people can get, they can't hold a candle to the unreasonableness of the general world.

[James Thomas Rook Jr.]

If you like to cringe and shudder at the new songbook changes ... here is one that will help out.

Every time I see our theology being adulterated by lawyers and accountants, it makes me cringe and shudder.

 

[Anna]

37 minutes ago, JW Insider said:

They also say that David, as a shepherd, was out-standing in his field.

That's an old one. My husband's is his own, and he's copyrighted it

 

31 minutes ago, TrueTomHarley said:

While I would not speak so at the Kingdom all, and neither would he, 

He would and did. Lol. Your congregation must be a little more straight laced

[TrueTomHarley]

1 minute ago, Anna said:

He would and did. Lol. Your congregation must be a little more straight laced

Well - not from the platform, I hope. Or, at least, not in public prayer.

 

[Anna]

1 minute ago, TrueTomHarley said:

Well - not from the platform, I hope. Or, at least, not in public prayer.

 

True 

[Anna]

32 minutes ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

If you like to cringe and shudder at the new songbook changes ... here is one that will help out.

Every time I see our theology being adulterated by lawyers and accountants, it makes me cringe and shudder.

 

Well they had to replace the stanza beginning "take my mind..." (lol) with something. Plus material giving is scriptural. 

And I see you are ignoring my well meant advice about visiting those apostate websites. (Do not ignore a woman telling you what to do)

[DespicableME]

LOL!!! , if anyone decides to go nude to prove a point? Know Caesars indecency laws

https://www.hg.org/article.asp?id=31193

[JW Insider]

3 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

To be fair, the original version of this hymn was written by Frances Ridley Havergal (1836-1879) and originally played with music by Henri Abraham Cesar Malan (1787-1864). The original version also included the words "Take my silver and my gold." In 1966, we were still singing this song at the Hall with the words: "Take my silver and my gold."

(Frances Havergal was the wife of an Anglican preacher [Church of England] and her brother was a priest in the Anglican church.)

Our penultimate version included "take my:" heart, mind, feet, hands, voice, life, myself.

Our current version now includes "take my:" heart, voice, feet, hands, silver, gold, life, myself.

So we had to lose "my mind" and raise "my voice" to accommodate "my silver and my gold."

As you can see below, the original Anglican version (right) had "take my:" life, moments, days, hands, feet, voice, lips, silver, gold, mind(intellect), will, heart, love, and myself. The ones we still include are highlighted in red, so we are now at 9 of 14. Starting in 1905 (Hymns of the Millennial Dawn) we sang it almost exactly as it is in the original. The 1905 version (left) was the way Russellites sang it and was very much like other versions of the original as sung in other churches.

 

1  Take my life and may it be Lord, acceptable to thee; Take my hands, and let them move At the impulse of thy love. Â	Take my life, and let it be Consecrated, Lord, to Thee; Take my moments and my days, Let them flow in ceaseless praise, Let them flow in ceaseless praise.
2 Take my feet and let them be Swift on errands, Lord for thee; Take my voice and let it bring Honor always to my King.   Â	Take my hands, and let them move At the impulse of Thy love; Take my feet and let them be Swift and beautiful for Thee, Swift and beautiful for Thee.
3 Take my lips and let them be Moved with messages from thee; Take my silver and my gold; Nothing, Lord, would I withhold.   Â	Take my voice, and let me sing Always, only, for my King; Take my lips, and let them be Filled with messages from Thee, Filled with messages from Thee.
4 Take my moments and my days; Let them flow in constant praise; Take my intellect and use Ev'ry pow'r as thou shalt choose. Â	Take my silver and my gold; Not a mite would I withhold; Take my intellect, and use Every power as Thou shalt choose, Every power as Thou shalt choose.
5 Take my will and make it thine; It shall be no longer mine; Take my heart, it is thine own; Thus in me thyself enthrone.   Â	Take my will, and make it Thine; It shall be no longer mine. Take my heart; it is Thine own; It shall be Thy royal throne, It shall be Thy royal throne.
6 Take my love, my God; I pour At thy feet its treasure store; Take myself-- I wish to be Ever, only, all for thee.   Â	Take my love; my Lord, I pour At Thy feet its treasure-store. Take myself, and I will be Ever, only, all for Thee, Ever, only, all for Thee.

We began singing a very pretty, shortened version of this song a couple decades later. We changed the name from Consecration to Dedication in 1950, and this was the way we were singing it up until 1966 (pictured below) -- with "take my:" life, voice, feet, hands, mind[intellect], moments, silver, gold, heart, myself -- still managing to fit 10 out of 14 points from the original.