Why John Butler Left Jehovah's Witnesses

[James Thomas Rook Jr.]

...or tabletop Whack-A-Mole.

[TrueTomHarley]

On ‎10‎/‎7‎/‎2018 at 3:40 AM, Srecko Sostar said:

Many of the used words are not the fabrication of the one who writes them, but are in use for a long time. Those involved in the discussion know what they are talking about.

Well, he is right on that. @Admin should take that under consideration before he goes Howard Beale on us again.

[Vic Vomidog]

1 minute ago, TrueTomHarley said:

Well, he is right on that. @Admin should take that under consideration before he goes Howard Beale on us again.

For once, TrueTom, whose very guts I hate, has a point. Butt out, @admin, or the lads and I will make you walk the plank!

[Srecko Sostar]

18 minutes ago, TrueTomHarley said:

Well, he is right on that. @Admin should take that under consideration before he goes Howard Beale on us again.

He? Who is he? Me or Srecko or somebody else you talking with :)))))

[Vic Vomidog]

8 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

He? Who is he? Me or Srecko or somebody else you talking with :)))))

He is mad. Mad, I say. I keep trying to tell you, Srecko.

He keeps speaking in the third person, the pompous ass, as though he were above it all.

[Space Merchant]

23 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

He? Who is he? Me or Srecko or somebody else you talking with :)))))

Possibly you and admin.

[TrueTomHarley]

3 hours ago, Space Merchant said:

Possibly you and admin.

Watch for it..... I don’t want to issue a spoiler, but think Star Wars.

”Luke....I am your father!”

[TrueTomHarley]

Okay, serious again. Back to work.

The inclusion of 2 Samuel 16:5-13 in the midweek meeting is telling, in my view. It was particularly so since that same meeting, in the 'Book Study' portion, discussed Matthew 11, where Jesus states that they criticize you no matter what you do, like children, so the best recourse is to go full speed ahead and let 'wisdom be proved righteous by its works.'

The GB doesn't make specific statements regarding accusations, even when some prove true and the media shouts them to the high heavens. They do a Matthew 11, or a Psalm 34:18, or a Luke 9:62. They don't play the game of responding to outside reports. Some of them are true. Some of them are untrue. Some of them are partially true. If they weigh in on each one it not only focuses the spotlight on the greater world's information channel, but it leaves them time to do anything else.

Nonetheless, by including the 2 Samuel verses, it is clear their what their attitude is, and it is so far from 'arrogant' that anyone charging it ought to have his or her head examined. In those verses, David strays from familiar turf. Shimei confronts him from afar. He curses him, calling him 'blood-guilty,' 'good-for-nothing,' and throws stones at him. David's man wants to take his head off, but David says: 'Well, he has a point.'

No, he doesn't say that literally, but he comes pretty close. Whatever Shimei thinks, he came by his viewpoint through his interpretation of things that actually transpired, and David says, in effect, 'Well, if Jehovah permits him to abuse me like this, who am I to say he cannot do it?' It is incredible humility on his part. 

He says exactly: "Here my own son, who has come forth out of my own inward parts, is looking for my soul, and how much more [this man.] Let him alone that he may call down evil" and let Jehovah figure it out, however he will. 

With that David and his men kept going on in the road, while Shimei was walking on the side of the mountain, walking abreast of him that he might call down evil; and he kept throwing stones while abreast of him, and he threw a lot of dust.

Now, there is nothing significant that enters the meeting content without the express approval of Governing Body members, as they serve on various committees. There is no way they that cannot be putting themselves in the place of David. Whatever may be gleaned from this, one thing that cannot be missed is that they are the most self-effacing men on earth. 

 

 

 

[JOHN BUTLER]

21 minutes ago, TrueTomHarley said:

Okay, serious again. Back to work.

The inclusion of 2 Samuel 16:5-13 in the midweek meeting is telling, in my view. It was particularly so since that same meeting, in the 'Book Study' portion, discussed Matthew 11, where Jesus states that they criticize you no matter what you do, like children, so the best recourse is to go full speed ahead and let 'wisdom be proved righteous by its works.'

The GB doesn't make specific statements regarding accusations, even when some prove true and the media shouts them to the high heavens. They do a Matthew 11, or a Psalm 34:18, or a Luke 9:62. They don't play the game of responding to outside reports. Some of them are true. Some of them are untrue. Some of them are partially true. If they weigh in on each one it not only focuses the spotlight on the greater world's information channel, but it leaves them time to do anything else.

Nonetheless, by including the 2 Samuel verses, it is clear their what their attitude is, and it is so far from 'arrogant' that anyone charging it ought to have his or her head examined. In those verses, David strays from familiar turf. Shimei confronts him from afar. He curses him, calling him 'blood-guilty,' 'good-for-nothing,' and throws stones at him. David's man wants to take his head off, but David says: 'Well, he has a point.'

No, he doesn't say that literally, but he comes pretty close. Whatever Shimei thinks, he came by his viewpoint through his interpretation of things that actually transpired, and David says, in effect, 'Well, if Jehovah permits him to abuse me like this, who am I to say he cannot do it?' It is incredible humility on his part. 

He says exactly: "Here my own son, who has come forth out of my own inward parts, is looking for my soul, and how much more [this man.] Let him alone that he may call down evil" and let Jehovah figure it out, however he will. 

With that David and his men kept going on in the road, while Shimei was walking on the side of the mountain, walking abreast of him that he might call down evil; and he kept throwing stones while abreast of him, and he threw a lot of dust.

Now, there is nothing significant that enters the meeting content without the express approval of Governing Body members, as they serve on various committees. There is no way they that cannot be putting themselves in the place of David. Whatever may be gleaned from this, one thing that cannot be missed is that they are the most self-effacing men on earth. 

 

 

 

self-effacing

/ˌsɛlfɪˈfeɪsɪŋ/

adjective

 

1. not claiming attention for oneself; retiring and modest.

   "his demeanour was self-effacing, gracious, and polite"

    

   Oh you are good for a laugh Tom.

    

   And quote: "Now, there is nothing significant that enters the meeting content without the express approval of Governing Body members, "

    

   But the approval of mere men means nothing in God's eyes, haven't you figured that out yet Tom ? .

   My oh my and I thought you had spiritual wisdom.

    

   As for the GB commenting on accusations. If only i could find it, I'm sure somewhere the GB or one of its members said that the Child Abuse accusations were the acts of Apostates and not true.  

[Evacuated]

5 hours ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

the approval of mere men means nothing in God's eyes,

Nor disapproval.

[TrueTomHarley]

7 hours ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

But the approval of mere men means nothing in God's eyes, haven't you figured that out yet Tom ? .

My oh my and I thought you had spiritual wisdom.

Your comment makes no sense whatsoever.

[Space Merchant]

11 hours ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

But the approval of mere men means nothing in God's eyes, haven't you figured that out yet Tom ? .

My oh my and I thought you had spiritual wisdom.

Not quite, then you have those that make up the Spiritual House, those of the New Covenant and God's Christ who is the head of the church, hence members of the church who has/requires able bodied ones and the like.

God approves/disapproves but us as normal men and women cannot do the approving or the anointing for God, he can do this himself.

 

That being said, there are only a few chosen ones on the earth, we do not have an exact number, especially from Pentecost up to now.

God invites men to such things so we cannot say for certain.