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[Srecko Sostar]

Confusing and controversial ideas and perceptions we can find about God, life and death, feelings, acts/deeds of human and gods.

 

HOW GOD FEELS ABOUT LIFE

3. What did Jehovah do when Cain killed Abel?

3 The Bible teaches us that our life and the lives of other people are precious to Jehovah. For example, when Cain—Adam and Eve’s son—was very angry with his younger brother Abel, Jehovah warned Cain that he needed to control his anger. But Cain didn’t listen, and he became so angry that he “assaulted his brother Abel and killed him.” (Genesis 4:3-8) Jehovah punished Cain for murdering Abel. (Genesis 4:9-11) So anger and hatred are dangerous because they can make us become violent or cruel. A person who is like that cannot have everlasting life. (Read1 John 3:15.) To please Jehovah, we must learn to love all people.—1 John 3:11, 12. - https://www.jw.org/ase/publications/books/bible-study/respect-gods-gift-of-life-blood/

 

On other side we can find this in Bible, directly as words inspired to be written by Almighty God.  

 

 

  7   Remember, O Jehovah,What the Eʹdom·ites said on the day Jerusalem fell:“Tear it down! Tear it down to its foundations!”+ 

⁸  O daughter of Babylon, who is soon to be devastated,+Happy will be the one who rewards you With the treatment you inflicted on us.+

⁹  Happy will be the one who seizes your children And dashes them against the rocks.+ -  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/psalms/137/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Evacuated]

1 hour ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Confusing and controversial ideas and perceptions we can find about God

Like this?

De.32:22: "For my anger has kindled a firethat will burn to the depths of the Grave, and it will consume the earth and its produce and will set ablaze the foundations of mountains."

Or like this?

Pro.28:5 "Men given to badness cannot understand judgment, but those who are seeking Jehovah can understand everything."

 

[Josué2]

Bonjour la bible doit être lue dans son contexte et il ne faut pas sortir un verset pour essayer de la comprendre.

[JW Insider]

10 hours ago, Josué2 said:

Bonjour la bible doit être lue dans son contexte et il ne faut pas sortir un verset pour essayer de la comprendre.

Which means, when translated, something like: Hello, the Bible should be read in context and one should not try to understand it by taking a verse out of context.

[Space Merchant]

2 hours ago, JW Insider said:

Which means, when translated, something like: Hello, the Bible should be read in context and one should not try to understand it by taking a verse out of context.

It is true, though, for context is key.

[Josué2]

Et oui car autrement on peut lui faire dire n'importe quoi.

(2 Timothée 3:15-17) [...] . 16 Toute l’Écriture est inspirée de Dieu et utile pour enseigner, pour réprimander, pour redresser les choses, pour former à une conduite juste, 17 pour que l’homme de Dieu soit pleinement qualifié, parfaitement équipé pour toute œuvre bonne.
 

 

[Srecko Sostar]

How about this context? :))

 

Proverbs 24:17 New International Version (NIV)

 

¹⁷ Do not gloat when your enemy falls;
    when they stumble, do not let your heart rejoice,

[Josué2]

Pour se calmer, il est également très important de ne pas oublier ses relations avec le Créateur. Jéhovah ne regarde pas d’un œil favorable ceux qui se réjouissent du malheur de leurs ennemis, car pareille attitude reflète un esprit vengeur. Or, dans Proverbes 24:17, 18, nous trouvons cet avertissement : “Quand ton ennemi tombe, ne te réjouis pas ; et quand il trébuche, que ton cœur ne soit pas joyeux, pour que Jéhovah ne le voie pas, et que cela ne soit pas mauvais à ses yeux.”
 

[Space Merchant]

11 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

How about this context? :))

 

Proverbs 24:17 New International Version (NIV)

 

¹⁷ Do not gloat when your enemy falls;
    when they stumble, do not let your heart rejoice,

What about it?

This verse has no violation of Hebrew Strong's at all and it cross-references to Job 31:29, Proverbs 17:5,  and 25:21, 22.

As a Christians, when an enemy falls we are not to rejoice, and when he is caused to stumble, we should not b joyful to heart.

Also it goes hand in hand with a saying we have today "Do not kick a man when hes down".

That being said, this verse is way too obvious in meaning to take it out of context, it pretty much tells you the context itself.

[JW Insider]

12 hours ago, Josué2 said:

Pour se calmer, il est également très important de ne pas oublier ses relations avec le Créateur. Jéhovah ne regarde pas d’un œil favorable ceux qui se réjouissent du malheur de leurs ennemis, car pareille attitude reflète un esprit vengeur. Or, dans Proverbes 24:17, 18, nous trouvons cet avertissement : “Quand ton ennemi tombe, ne te réjouis pas ; et quand il trébuche, que ton cœur ne soit pas joyeux, pour que Jéhovah ne le voie pas, et que cela ne soit pas mauvais à ses yeux.”

translate.google.com:

To calm down, it is also very important not to forget your relationship with the Creator. Jehovah does not look favorably upon those who rejoice over the misfortune of their enemies, for such an attitude reflects an avenging spirit. Now, in Proverbs 24:17, 18, we find this warning: "When your enemy falls, do not rejoice; and when it stumbles, let not your heart be joyful, that Jehovah may not see it, and that it shall not be evil in his sight."

[Josué2]

Il y a 12 heures, Space Merchant a dit :

Qu'en est-il?

Ce verset a pas eu violation de l' hébreu Strong du tout et il références croisées à  Job 31:29, Proverbes 17: 5 et 25:21, 22 .

En tant que chrétiens, quand un ennemi tombe, nous ne sommes pas de se réjouir, et quand il est scandalisé, il ne faut pas b joie à cœur.

En outre , il va de pair avec un dicton que nous avons aujourd'hui « Ne pas lancer un homme quand hes vers le bas ».

Cela étant dit, ce verset est trop évidente dans un sens à prendre hors contexte, il vous dit à peu près le contexte lui-même.

qui parle de ce réjouir dans cette citation  ?

[Srecko Sostar]

Case 1)

Happy will be the one who rewards you With the treatment you inflicted on us.

Happy will be the one who seizes your children And dashes them against the rocks.

Case 2)

Do not gloat when your enemy falls;
 when they stumble, do not let your heart rejoice,

Case 3)

If your enemy is hungry, give him bread to eat;
And if he is thirsty, give him water to drink;
 For so you will heap coals of fire on his head,
And the Lord will reward you.

 

Please, now do make context of this inspired verses. Context doesn't mean only few verses in one and same passage, chapter or same book. But context in/of all 66 books. And even more, not just context of The Book, but context of life, time, space, love, hate ..... Context of purpose and final result.

I am not to try support this or that conclusion, but point to/out, indicate on some problematic that can arise.