ANTHONY MORRIS AT THE LIQUOR STORE

[Queen Esther]

Why not ask Brother Morris, then the issue is resolved.
Everything else is just embarrassing!
April 19th is our MEMORIAL ceremony ❤ ♥ ☼ ♥ ❤ 

Thank you....

[TrueTomHarley]

21 minutes ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

As for the GB pretending to be 'poor', i bet they have country mansions for summer holidays  

They don’t.

 

[JOHN BUTLER]

The rumor about "higher-ups" is not directly related, but it was related to the "gifts" of prime cut steaks that were sent periodically from Watchtower Farms to Brooklyn. These were never served to the Bethel family, but I knew one of the cooks who was sworn to secrecy about who got them and how often. There are always perks in any organization for those at a certain level of responsibility, and this was not a "Governing Body" thing. It was more of a long time seniority thing, which will necessarily (sometimes) overlap. Since these steaks were served semi-privately as specially cooked meals, they could be served with alcohol, but some brothers were said to have already served themselves alcohol before coming down to get their meal. Certain brothers became known for this behavior, even to the point of using very foul language to the cooks and waiters. If you want to keep a secret the last thing you want to do is curse out a cook or a waiter

My my, it gets even better.  Imagine telling all this to a new bible study. 

But of course everyone is equal, oh wait a minute we have 'higher ups' getting prime steak, served privately. 

After all 'There are always perks in any organization for those at a certain level of responsibility'. 

And brothers are all loving and kind and very spiritual at bethel, oh no there are brothers that get drunk and swear at the cooks and waiters. 

It's shows itself as being just another big organisation with those at the top living off of those at the bottom. 

No wonder the GB do not receive God's holy spirit. 

 

 

[JOHN BUTLER]

1 minute ago, TrueTomHarley said:

They don’t.

 

Do you mean they don't pretend to be poor ?

[TrueTomHarley]

4 hours ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

Quote @JW Insider Drinking stories were always rampant 

Didn’t that boy had turned over a new leaf?

4 hours ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

But I have seen young Bethelites get drunk, and it was shameful and embarrassing. (For some 19 and 20 year olds, Bethel would have been their first real experience with alcohol.)

Ah, well. Kids is kids. Ideally, they grow up.

[JOHN BUTLER]

1 minute ago, TrueTomHarley said:

I that boy had turned over a new leaf?

Ah, well. Kids is kids. Ideally, they grow up.

And  I used to think that people invited to Bethel were spiritually mature. Now it's a kindergarten is it ? 

[Guest Indiana]

We’re still buzzing over a video that Lloyd Evans posted of Jehovah’s Witnesses Governing Body member Anthony Morris III buying a cartload of expensive hooch.

And now Lloyd, Mark O’Donnell, and other ex-JW activists have had a chance to talk about Tony’s March 31 trip to the liquor store in a group video chat that we found fascinating and thought you would too.

About 15 minutes in, Mark reads from a letter that a Witness received when they asked a Governing Body “Helper” for some help understanding what Tony was doing buying about $850 of Macallans Scotch (and throwing away the gift boxes) at 11 am on a Sunday morning in the New Jersey town of Ramsey about 25 miles from JW world headquarters in Warwick, New York. (Not only was it a large purchase of expensive Scotch, but Governing Body members like Morris take a poverty vow and wouldn’t normally have $850 to spend on whisky. Also, Morris in particular is known for his imperious and judgmental stands on the way Witnesses should comport themselves and even what they should wear, so whatever he wanted the alcohol for, it’s just not a good look.)

Here’s what the helper wrote to the Witness about Tony’s adventure:

Dear [redacted],
While I appreciate the concern of the brother who “witnessed” this, I also have some concerns about the assumptions made. Please keep in mind, there are a number of circumstances that others may not be aware of. For example, using the purchase in connection with visitors, graduates from Gilead or the Branch Committee School. Also, over what period of time will these [bottles] be used? As far as dedicated funds, some of our brothers had businesses prior to coming to Bethel. I will not get too personal on Brother Morris’s circumstances in that regard. It does point out that our dear brothers are a “theatrical spectacle,” so please assume the best of our dear brother. Thank you.

The group in the video has some really smart things to say about this response, so take a look.

In the meantime, we’ve sent our own official request for a statement to the Watchtower’s Office of Public Information after chatting with a couple of folks on the phone in Warwick, who were polite, cheery, and helpful. We sure hope someone gets back to us with a response to our inquiry.

https://tonyortega.org/2019/04/04/a-jehovahs-witnesses-official-responds-unofficially-to-bottlegate/

[Queen Esther]

Holy spirit is God’s free gift to those who sincerely seek it. It can enhance not only your abilities but also your desire to do your best in his service. “God is the one that, for the sake of his good pleasure, is acting within you in order for you both to will and to act.” The precious gift of holy spirit, coupled with our earnest efforts to keep “a tight grip on the word of life,” will allow us to “keep working out [our] own salvation with fear and trembling.”—Phil. 2:12, 13, 16.

With complete confidence in God’s spirit, then, pour your heart into every assignment, become skilled at what you are given to do, and look to Jehovah for assistance. (Jas. 1:5) He will give you what you need to understand his Word, cope with life’s problems, and preach the good news. “Keep on asking, and it will be given you; keep on seeking, and you will find; keep on knocking, and it will be opened to you,” and this includes receiving holy spirit. (Luke 11:9, 13) Indeed, keep on supplicating Jehovah that you may be like faithful ones—both ancient and modern—who were guided by God’s holy spirit.

WE  ALL  CAN  PLEASE  JEHOVAH  AT  HIS  HOLY SPIRIT !   ❤♥☼♥❤

SATAN does a good job and most people succumb to his sly traps anyway.
Give away so much time for a trivial topic ....??

[TrueTomHarley]

2 hours ago, Indiana said:

chatting with a couple of folks on the phone in Warwick, who were polite, cheery, and helpful

Did Lloyd spin that as proof that they were bombed?

[James Thomas Rook Jr.]

The Memorial wine is a plain red wine, without any additives, or fortifications.   Fermented red grape juice ONLY.

This has been mentioned at every Memorial I have ever been to,  for the past 58 years.

 

[TrueTomHarley]

8 hours ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

It's shows itself as being just another big organisation with those at the top living off of those at the bottom. 

In fact, John, you are being fed a pack of lies, and I cannot believe that you are gullible enough to fall for it.

During my years at Bethel, two GB members came down with pneumonia. Nobody could figure out why, because they had perfectly good space heaters for their pup tents. It turned out that, even though the temperature had been in the teens for days, they had kept them off so as not to waste dedicated funds.

Three of them got hand fungus from the hours they spent every day on foot-washing detail.

Two of them subsisted on honey and locusts. Four pressed their clothes with bricks so as not to waste electricity on ironing.

One of them winced when I said ‘hello’ and I learned afterwards that he only says “greetings” because “hello” has “hell” in it.

He winced even more and permanently injured his back carrying my bags to my room when I arrived, even though I told him I had brought my anvil collection.

One of them, when I had a flat tire, gave me a wheel off his car, and then had to walk through the sleet to the airport, where he strapped himself to a wing of the plane to save money and flew to Portugal to serve as keynote speaker there.

I visited Brother Morris in his tent, and he offered me a cup of coffee. As I sipped mine he diluted his to make it last longer.

These brothers make more self-sacrifice in a day than you do in a year.

 

 

[Space Merchant]

So what is with the whole tinfoil-hattery regarding someone buying some wine? Especially around this time of year, stuff like this is no surprise.