The phenomena of "Holy Spirit", working in the minds and hearts of the JWs down at the bottom of the stack

[James Thomas Rook Jr.]

Witness:

I pay attention to what you write ... it being easier the shorter the epistle is, but I have an observation that in THIS case I consider to be quite true.

The fact that down at the bottom, below the Elder  level of organization, the crapola that sometimes comes out of JW leadership, in it's self serving, self aggrandizing pontification, is somehow (for the most part) subtracted out, and our lives are made much better in every way,

The only explanation I can deduce for this phenomena is "Holy Spirit", working in the minds and hearts of the JWs down at the bottom of the stack.

It's like watching Forest Gump wander through life, thinking he has invested in a start-up fruit company ... and it turns out to be Apple Computer.

[Witness]

44 minutes ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

The only explanation I can deduce for this phenomena is "Holy Spirit", working in the minds and hearts of the JWs down at the bottom of the stack.

Is it Holy Spirit or the result of living by the basic Bible teachings at the level you describe? There are many who are not JWs that fit that category -  either as individuals or part of an independent “Christian” congregation, that may not be under the authority of an organization or a ruling class of leaders.  But, they appear to live by the basic Bible teachings and are seemingly “good” people.    Does Holy Spirit fall like rain on the righteous and the unrighteous?  Matt 5:45

 

[James Thomas Rook Jr.]

4 minutes ago, Witness said:

 Does Holy Spirit fall like rain on the righteous and the unrighteous?  Matt 5:45

 

I believe it does, on an individual and as a group.

Nevertheless, being a Barbarian at heart, I appreciate MANY things I could not have learned elsewhere, even though it was accompanied by heavy unnecessary burdens based solely on the opinions of pontificators.

One of those MAJOR things is that I did not go to Vietnam, and kill people for a national political agenda.

I wanted to go there as a photojournalist, which was probably a bad idea, as I am so large that my nickname might have been "Bullet Catcher", as it was for 63 photojournalists that died there.

[Patiently waiting for Truth]

IF holy spirit reached anyone in the JW Org it would be a great surprise to me.  

IF holy spirit reached the congregants then would they carry on serving the GB and the Org ?

IF holy spirit reached the congregants then would they still go into the 'ministry work' teaching the LIES to other people ?

Would congregants take on Bible Studies and teach LIES of men from books, by not using the Bible properly ? 

Would congregants encourage families into the K H knowing that there may be a paedophile in there ?

Well the congregants would know about the paedophile situation, if  the congregants were blessed with holy spirit. 

No, there is no holy spirit in the JW Org. If ever there was, which I cannot now believe, it has vanished. Almighty God has turned the 'tap' off. And you, Mr Rook, will know this more than I. Because you see the faults and lies, the injustice and lack of love, the lack of mercy, the man made rules as a heavy burden (as you mentioned). 

 

 

 

[James Thomas Rook Jr.]

I expect NOTHING from anyone else, and I am never disappointed.

I disagree with your many unrealistic premises, 4Jah2me, as being a Barbarian myself, like the Shadow of old time radio fame ... I know what evil lurks in the hearts of men, and the thorns in their sides that never heal, and the fears and terrors of the ghosts that haunt them, and the cowardice that runs through all of our mortal bodies.

You think, in my considered opinion, like a child.

[Patiently waiting for Truth]

11 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

I expect NOTHING from anyone else, and I am never disappointed.

I disagree with your many unrealistic premises, 4Jah2me, as being a Barbarian myself, like the Shadow of old time radio fame ... I know what evil lurks in the hearts of men, and the thorns in their sides that never heal, and the fears and terrors of the ghosts that haunt them, and the cowardice that runs through all of our mortal bodies.

You think, in my considered opinion, like a child.

I find you very amusing Mr Rook. It seems that you feel you can say things against your GB and its Org, but others should not. 

Come on, Holy Spirit is not like drinking a casual cup of coffee.  Holy Spirit is a gift from Almighty God through Jesus Christ. I would at least expect to see some kind of positive result from it. 

Since the great disappointment of 1975, the Org has lost momentum, lost congregants, lost direction, changed it's teachings, is now losing money in multiple court cases, has lost credibility as to being a 'clean' 'wholesome' Organisation. It is stumbling and bumbling along. Being led by 8 men who are totally lost. Blind leading the blind, and oh what a pit they have fallen into. 

The very fact that you expect nothing, and get nothing, shows there is NO Holy Spirit in JW Org. 

I'm off to my kitchen to get a casual cup of coffee