IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion

[Patiently waiting for Truth]

8 hours ago, Arauna said:

When a miracle is an unexplained event which is beneficial then....sure I do believe in miracles.

Maybe a few will happen before Armageddon 

 

 

[TrueTomHarley]

1 hour ago, César Chávez said:

That's how disgusting he is to me.

You haven’t seen anything yet. It may be averted however, if you can grow up and treat people civilly, even those who genuinely are opposed.

Below, I have cleverly modified a well-known verse. See if you can spot the change:

“But when Michael the archangel had a difference with the Devil and was disputing about Moses’ body, he did not dare to bring a judgment against him in abusive terms, but said: “May Cezar rebuke you.”

It won’t necessarily be a bad thing if the two of us get into a cat fight. Presently, 4Jah will start crying, even more than he does now, that his “questions” are not being addressed, even though they have been countless times and he just wants to repackage them and keep running them through in perpetuity.

Should that happen to thwart his dastardly scheme, you actually will have contributed to combatting “apostasy.”

54 minutes ago, 4Jah2me said:

My point is that you [CC] pretend to be a JW, BUT the NWT does not include that scripture and you as a JW should know that.

Absolutely. Finally, finally, finally, 4Jah says something of value. CC certainly should know that. Any JW knows who is not a newbie that.

[Srecko Sostar]

3 hours ago, César Chávez said:

It would be false if you don't understand its context John. I see Srecko contradicts himself by the laughing emoji after stating it was a good example. That just continue to verify his mental state.

Let it put this way: Person can understand context for WTJWorg interpretation about 607 to 1914 to 1975. Is that (understanding) enough to make WTJWorg ideas to be true?

It is not (only) about mental state of individual , but more about how WTJWorg doctrines shape and direct mental state of person. Continuity continues :)) 

[Srecko Sostar]

3 hours ago, César Chávez said:

Therefore, my opinion of people here is very different with that of my worldwide brotherhood.

I am respecting your freedom to this (and other) opinion about "people here" and "people of your worldwide brotherhood". I am sure that you in the same moment have perception and idea and guess about reality, that many people in your "worldwide brotherhood" feel and think similar to "people here", but they are not here to tell us that. 

[Srecko Sostar]

3 hours ago, César Chávez said:

If you insult me, I will insult you

I don't know how JW member (not only you dear Cesar) can so repetitively, resolutely and drastically advocate a position that is contrary to the public proclamation of WTJWorg and even more important to the teachings of Jesus ?!

[Srecko Sostar]

3 hours ago, 4Jah2me said:

3 hours ago, xero said:

The only reason people argue against these accounts when it comes down to it is that they 1. Don't believe God Exists 2. Therefore miracles don't happen.

Yes, a wonderful thought indeed, BUT, even JWs on here don't seem to believe in miracles anymore.

One of most indicative "miracles" is to be "inspired by God (HS)". GB deny every possibility that individual or group of people can be "inspired" by God today. 

[xero]

19 minutes ago, TrueTomHarley said:

You haven’t seen anything yet. It may be averted however, if you can grow up and treat people civilly, even those who genuinely are opposed.

Below, I have cleverly modified a well-known verse. See if you can spot the change:

“But when Michael the archangel had a difference with the Devil and was disputing about Moses’ body, he did not dare to bring a judgment against him in abusive terms, but said: “May Cezar rebuke you.”

It won’t necessarily be a bad thing if the two of us get into a cat fight. Presently, 4Jah will start crying, even more than he does now, that his “questions” are not being addressed, even though they have been countless times and he just wants to repackage them and keep running them through in perpetuity.

Should that happen to thwart his dastardly scheme, you actually will have contributed to combatting “apostasy.”

Absolutely. Finally, finally, finally, 4Jah says something of value. He certainly should know that. Any JW knows who is not a newbie that.

A lot of these nut jobs remind me of the character Adam Sandler played in "Water Boy". His character was always hallucinating things that other people weren't saying.

 

 

[Arauna]

12 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

people can be "inspired" by God today. 

Incorrect - I have spoken to people from these ' inspired churches' who make up a lot of things as they go along and say they are inspired by god's spirit.  Usually these inspired things are closer to spiritism than the Bible.  The Bible is our "inspired" source.

[Patiently waiting for Truth]

7 hours ago, xero said:

A lot of these nut jobs remind me of

xero is here pretending to be a JW Elder. Oh dear, well if he is a JW Elder it shows the very low level of JW Elders. 

But i suppose he is just doing what JWs do, following the GB. Remember it is the GB that say some of the Anointed are mentally ill, or nut jobs as xero calls them here. 

xero, you show yourself for what you are it seems. 

[Patiently waiting for Truth]

8 hours ago, Arauna said:

8 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

people can be "inspired" by God today. 

Incorrect -

You see @Srecko Sostar some of these JWs do not believe in miracles, even if they pretend to. 

[TrueTomHarley]

1 hour ago, César Chávez said:

Also, I don't see that idiot TTH criticizing you

On the contrary, I atypically commended him. As that sage JTR used to say, “Even a blind squirrel catches a nut sometimes.”

I commended him for pointing out that if you were really a Witness, surely you would know that the latter verses of John 8 are spurious. That you did not simply confirms a growing estimation that you are a fraud—that you are here pretending to be a Witness in order to convey the impression that they are harsh, mean, and dogmatic.

I don’t counter that character? How’s THIS for not countering him?

https://www.tomsheepandgoats.com/2021/02/holly-folk-speaks-to-child-sexual-abuse-among-jehovahs-witnesses.html

[Srecko Sostar]

9 minutes ago, Arauna said:

Incorrect - I have spoken to people from these ' inspired churches' who make up a lot of things as they go along and say they are inspired by god's spirit.  Usually these inspired things are closer to spiritism than the Bible.  The Bible is our "inspired" source.

Obviously we have a different view of the meaning of the term "inspired", but also of the manifestation of the action of the spirit, if / when someone is "inspired". Simply put, "being inspired" does not only mean how someone walks on water or speaks a language they have never learned, walks through a wall and the like.