Did Carnivores Exist Before the Flood of Noah's Day?

[Dmitar]

3 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

WTJWorg explains that the most important reason why God rejected Cain’s sacrifice was that he had no faith, and Abel had. Meat and bloodshed also play a role, but WTJWorg publications do not claim that this was the sole reason.

Can you explain why you believe and organization that follows scripture, can be seen as though that organization wrote the Bible, under your personal observation?

[Pudgy]

1 hour ago, Dmitar said:

You seem to be at odds with yourself as a nonintellectual animal. Perhaps learning from a real dog, you can get a straight forward question. Real dogs just obey without thought of mind of what the owner really needs, just wants. However, you seem to be an extremely rude and obnoxious person pretending to be an animal. 

Since we have already established that you’re wrong about everything, it might be fun to address your points, point by point.

1.) I am very well coordinated as a non-intellectual animal. MUCH Better than being at odds with myself as a vegetable. I would choose an onion if I had a choice.

2.) I do not remember ever getting a straightforward question from a real dog, usually just Mark Mark Mark Mark Mark if they have asthma.

3.) you’re wrong about what real dog does or does not do ….. which is completely immaterial, as I’m a cartoon dog which has one distinct  disadvantage  when playing poker …….. a person can read the thought balloon above my head. If a real dog had good cards, he would probably wag his tail, making it impossible to bluff at cards.

4.) And to your last point, about me being a rude and obnoxious person pretending to be an animal  ……… What’s your point?

[Srecko Sostar]

17 hours ago, xero said:

Do you have any scriptures prescribing the disposition of the dead? Nope. Just that you're unclean if you touch a dead thing or person.

Sorry, it was only a questions that arose; How many individuals touched the body of the dead Jesus, on Earth? And was that considered an unclean act? Who took away the body of Jesus that could not be found? And is that unclean act, aka did they become unclean because of it? Is the body of the dead Jesus unclean?

[Srecko Sostar]

9 hours ago, Dmitar said:

Can you explain why you believe and organization that follows scripture,

I find that this organization often follows its own interpretations of the Bible/scripture.   

[Pudgy]

I think everybody here is missing the point of Life, The Universe, and Everything.

Yes, the WTB&TS is guilty of hundreds of sins over a hundred and more years, but the fact is that in a Universe that is inhabited by big ugly bags of mostly water, and a Sovereign God that allows for it, they are the best bet we have for learning about how to be better people.

Again and again and again I have asked all here to show me something better, and they have, with a million words, failed to do so.

Details are important, and they have been sorely lacking.

There is no love in what I know .... but I cannot deny the fact that, disregarding "Management", Jehovah's Witnesses are humanity's best bet.

... all the others are so very much worse.

 

[TrueTomHarley]

3 hours ago, Pudgy said:

Again and again and again I have asked all here to show me something better, and they have, with a million words, failed to do so.

Exactly.

It is a fool’s game to base judgments on the flaws of those taking the lead anywhere, but it is also the oldest trick in the book. Honing in on the imperfections of the doers will allow you to discredit anything. The only ones not making mistakes are the ones not doing anything (as though that itself is not a mistake).

We’re in weak position to say what ‘should be done’ in directing the Lord’s work. To those who think a True Anointed is the answer, consider how Jesus surely was a true anointed, yet he said something that, if any of the Governing Body had said it, they would be blistering condemned as irresponsible and wrong.

Why did Jesus say as he did about eating his flesh and drinking his blood? (John 6) No clue here. Enemies of the truth would later seize upon it to spread the ill rumor that Christians practiced cannibalism. Early Christians were persecuted and killed, their enemies spurred on by this abominable report that could be traced to Jesus himself. Who would not, if they didn’t know it was Jesus, not quickly condemn whoever said the inflammatory words.

Like you, not all is as I personally would like it. Would things be better if things were more to my liking? No clue. They might easily be worse.  The one thing we know for sure—two dozen or more scriptures say it directly—is that true Christians will be hated by the world. That is a tough current to navigate against.

I have taken the Rolling Stones song as though my own, ‘You Can’t Always Get What You Want.’ I’ve also observed that the point of contention is always going to be the divine/human interface, and have even speculated that this is even true with Judas himself: He and God were tight. No problems there. But this imposter claiming to be the messiah was not at all what Judas had expected. Jesus didn’t fit the bill at all in Judas’s eyes.

[TrueTomHarley]

@Pudgysteadily improves in my eyes. I am starting to think of him as ‘the dog that does indeed vomit but has the good sense not to return to it.’

[Srecko Sostar]

1 hour ago, TrueTomHarley said:

Honing in on the imperfections of the doers will allow you to discredit anything. The only ones not making mistakes are the ones not doing anything (as though that itself is not a mistake).

The general fact is that we are, usually all, generals after a battle. But real generals also analyze their actions after the battle to be more successful next time. Everything is subject to criticism and questioning.

Doing nothing is wrong. But is the persistence in doing wrong things proof that we are still doing something good because we have convinced ourselves that it is better than doing nothing?

Preaching that Armageddon will take place in certain years or within a certain period gives some hope to people who believe in it. And after a failed theology, there are “generals and ordinary surviving soldiers” who comment on it.

We could accept the claim that accepting false hope is better than no hope at all. With such an idea, we could believe the claim that JWs have reached a high/er standard of faith and hope compared to some other people. 

Are JWs more honest and moral people than others? So now, do you really want to brag about that?

 

[TrueTomHarley]

28 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

The general fact is that we are, usually all, generals after a battle. But real generals also analyze their actions after the battle to be more successful next time. 

Are you privy to the degree Jesus did that after his ‘eat my flesh’ remarks gave enemies the pretext to persecute the congregation for cannibalism?

[Dmitar]

9 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

I find that this organization often follows its own interpretations of the Bible/scripture.

Doesn't any (Church) do the same thing? Isn't that something you are doing by judging their interpretation? How does your interpretation of scripture fair against others, that it becomes greater? Isn't following in Jesus footsteps the blueprint to excellence?

[Dmitar]

@Pudgy 

It appears intelligence is not high on the agenda here; I can answer your comment this way.

When God created man, he gave man the ability to think, an ability the animal Kingdom did not possess.

7 All kinds of animals, birds, reptiles, and creatures of the sea are being tamed and have been tamed by man, 8 but no man can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison.

Here, I can repost @xero previous thought

Ecc. 7:9

9 Do not be quickly provoked in your spirit, for anger settles in the lap of a fool.

So, can you explain how a vicious animal trained to be rude and obnoxious know when a human is wrong?

Can it be this animal was neutered, and doesn’t possess the ability to chase after puppy tail anymore?

[Patiently waiting for Truth]

8 hours ago, Pudgy said:

There is no love in what I know .... but I cannot deny the fact that, disregarding "Management", Jehovah's Witnesses are humanity's best bet.

... all the others are so very much worse.

I can only presume that you were a very drunk dog when you wrote this rubbish.  

You can't get much worse that PEDOPHILE ELDERS RAPING YOUNG CHILDREN 

And then you add to this horror by having a GOVERNING BODY THAT HIDES THOSE PEDOPHILES IN THE JW  ORG.