Dear Librarian I have a JW neighbour who lets his dog to go out without any supervision. For what I see this dog goes in the streets looking for food. He must not feed him.Isn't this animal cruelty? How he can pretend to be a ministerial servant if he is

[Isabella]

Dear @The Librarian

I have a JW neighbour who lets his dog to go out without any supervision. For what I see this dog goes in the streets looking for food. He must not feed him. Isn't this animal cruelty? How this JW can pretend to be a ministerial servant if he is not taking care of his domestic animal? Prov. 12:10.

[xero]

2 hours ago, Isabella said:

Dear @The Librarian

I have a JW neighbour who lets his dog to go out without any supervision. For what I see this dog goes in the streets looking for food. He must not feed him. Isn't this animal cruelty? How this JW can pretend to be a ministerial servant if he is not taking care of his domestic animal? Prov. 12:10.

Mt. 18:15-17

[Pudgy]

Dogs are ALWAYS looking for food.  I should know.

You are presuming actions and motives without any understanding or facts.

[xero]

7 hours ago, Pudgy said:

Dogs are ALWAYS looking for food.  I should know.

You are presuming actions and motives without any understanding or facts.

Biddies be stirrin' the pot like an unthinking but jealous bot.

[Patiently waiting for Truth]

On 10/23/2021 at 11:34 AM, Isabella said:

Dear @The Librarian

I have a JW neighbour who lets his dog to go out without any supervision. For what I see this dog goes in the streets looking for food. He must not feed him. Isn't this animal cruelty? How this JW can pretend to be a ministerial servant if he is not taking care of his domestic animal? Prov. 12:10.

(Is this really Isabella, or has she been hacked?) 

Isn't it illegal Stateside to let your dog lose in the streets ?  Could cause a traffic accident. 

It would be a Christian attitude for you to go talk to him about it. @xero  has already made this point with a scripture. 

But from my viewpoint animal cruelty is the least of things to worry about with JW MinS & Elders. 

How can you be concerned about a dog, but not concerned about Child Sexual Abuse in the JW Org ? 

 

[The Librarian]

I would consider that animal cruelty.... however... remember that the cheeseburger I just ate was from a cow that was just minding his own business and chewing his cud not even a few days ago.

Korea and other countries actually have dog markets where dog is a delicacy.

As the world gets poorer, more desperate and hungry I think we shall see a lot more of this.

 

[Pudgy]

If you re-label everything you can invent scenarios out of thin air.

It's easier when your thinking is based on an agenda and does not require thinking of any level.

... like the first posting on this thread.

I personally prefer to think of eggs as boneless chicken.

[Space Merchant]

23 hours ago, Isabella said:

Dear @The Librarian

I have a JW neighbour who lets his dog to go out without any supervision. For what I see this dog goes in the streets looking for food. He must not feed him. Isn't this animal cruelty? How this JW can pretend to be a ministerial servant if he is not taking care of his domestic animal? Prov. 12:10

Believe it or not, some in people actually do this - it is a rule of thumb for well trained dogs for some, even for cats, although some dogs/cats do eat in the home, sometimes they eat outside of the home as well (i.e. Cats hunt food also), so this person's dog who eats outside of the home, mainly due to the fact the dog is able to return to said home, should not be an issue. As for animal cruelty for a well trained animal, no, unless if the dog does not look weak and feeble, has injuries, looks unkept, etc, then I would not say animal cruelty, unless if it is visual present. Now a dog that does not really eat in the home can and will often times he hostile outside of the home towards other animals/people, and when there is food pretend, they can get violent towards said person/animal. Granted there is no indication that this is the case in regards to your statement, it is unlikely and the latter is true for an American raised domestic animal.

That being said, a dog that is well trained can be left unsupervised in some cases, noticed I said well trained, for a well trained dog if is is not in the home can handle itself, even return to said home, likewise with cats

https://shopus.furbo.com/blogs/knowledge/how-long-can-you-leave-a-dog-home-alone

Now if he had an unkept dog that is put in a dog fight like setting, that that rules animal cruelty.

2 hours ago, The Librarian said:

I would consider that animal cruelty.... however... remember that the cheeseburger I just ate was from a cow that was just minding his own business and chewing his cud not even a few days ago.

Korea and other countries actually have dog markets where dog is a delicacy.

As the world gets poorer, more desperate and hungry I think we shall see a lot more of this.

It would depends if there is evidence of the dog being unkept, etc. Granted it isn't a dog in a feral like state and well trained, the latter is ok.

As for cows, yes, people eat the meat of the cows, bones even, however, it comes down to how the cows and chickens are treated. A farmer can raise a cow well vs a famer who brutalizes and abuses a cow, and there is a difference; another factor is a use of drugs and hormones on said animals, to which many people, the US and the UK being big consumers, do not pay attention to this factor and consume without question.

As for Korea, this is true, however in some Asian countries there is a far more darker aspect in regards to such markets, some of which are quite unclean. At times if your pet dog goes missing, there is a high chance it may end up in said market, and depending on the owner of said market they can abuse the dog, drug it, etc. hence Animal Cruelty. This is why in some Asian countries, owners are very critical with supervision of their pet dogs and cats compared to that of the US and UK.

 

That being said, the biggest form of cruelty towards animals, in the realm of animal abuse is what Big Pharma does to animals, dogs are not spare, and those hidden labs some of them have that is straight out of the 1950s is quite diabolical, for I have seen abandon Labs of Big Pharma and labyrinth of cages and testing areas that are something straight out of some Alien Si-Fi, it isn't nice.

[Pudgy]

2 hours ago, The Librarian said:

I would consider that animal cruelty.... however... remember that the cheeseburger I just ate was from a cow that was just minding his own business and chewing his cud not even a few days ago.

... that is what happens when cows don't have guns.

[Space Merchant]

12 minutes ago, Pudgy said:

I personally prefer to think of eggs as boneless chicken.

Just be careful to not eat eggs. Eating it in front of the wrong person can warrant physical altercations. Or chicken sandwiches. No one would want to lose their life over a chicken sandwich; especially in London.

[Pudgy]

4 minutes ago, Space Merchant said:

That being said, the biggest form of cruelty towards animals, in the realm of animal abuse is what Big Pharma does to animals, dogs are not spare, and those hidden labs some of them have that is straight out of the 1950s is quite diabolical, for I have seen abandon Labs of Big Pharma and labyrinth of cages and testing areas that are something straight out of some Alien Si-Fi, it isn't nice.

Before I was rescued by my current Guardian (... a Rambo story of note ...), I spent some time in a cage at a cosmetics research laboratory, watching the humans day after day experiment with various lipsticks on pigs.

...it did make them  look better, but oddly enough, resemble to a great degree Hillary Clinton.

[Pudgy]

59 minutes ago, Space Merchant said:

A farmer can raise a cow well vs a farmer who brutalizes and abuses a cow,

You know, you TRY to raise a cow well, but sometimes it's like talking to a dumb beast, but like cats, they will all come to see a red laser dot on the ground at dusk, which sometimes leads to their undoing....