Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?

[Pudgy]

32 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Vast areas of land in Ukraine and Belarus remain off limits due to radioactive contamination, but plant life in these areas is flourishing (Credit: Getty Images)

Same thing with the Japanese Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant disaster, when the offshore earthquake swamped the plant with a tsunami.

The area has made a remarkable recovery.

 

[Dmitar]

3 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Vast areas of land in Ukraine and Belarus remain off limits due to radioactive contamination, but plant life in these areas is flourishing (Credit: Getty Images)

Does this image prove people can enjoy life within that flourishing area?

[Dmitar]

3 hours ago, Witness said:

Yes, the anointed.

Where does that leave the rest of Christ followers that contribute to Christ Church? 

4 hours ago, Witness said:

the priesthood (1 Pet 2:5,9) has been usurped by an elder body - a strong army that cannot be questioned. 

Can you expand on this thought? When the anointed receive their heavenly reward (Sinless State), how can the anointed as imperfect earthly representatives not be questioned, much as Jesus questioned Peter's spirituality? How would Judas be given such privilege? 

Therefore, are you referring, when the anointed ascend to heaven, or are you referring about building one's spirituality in order not to be judged unrighteous. There are conditions to righteousness, 1 Peter 2:1-2

Yet, the manner an anointed can be questioned is when that person stumbles, or by disobeying the message. 1 Peter 2: 7-8, much as a follower of Christ can.

 

[Space Merchant]

6 hours ago, Witness said:

This is not a reincarnation idea.  I'm sorry that you cannot see why Jesus called John the Baptist "Elijah". 

Actucally it is granted you did not make the context clear. John The Baptist is like that of Elijah, not Elijah himself. Likewise when it came to Jesus.

I made this very clear in what I said to you - which I can tell you did not read

For according to 17:10, people did expect someone like Elijah, of which what he has done, it evidently seen in John, but Elijah was not reborn as John as some seem to lean towards without making sense of the passage.

20 hours ago, Space Merchant said:

You also have to be very careful with Matthew 17:11 because a small misstep can lean one towards the reincarnation idea. Elijah had since expire (said to have passed around 849 BCE), but it was spoken of that someone like him will appear, for this was prophesied by Prophet Malachi, hence the verses you cited. The Jews in the pervious verse, Matthew 17:10 had this expectation of a Prophet similar to Elijah to come. Some assume it to be Jesus Christ himself as seen in Matthew 16:14 (and ref.), others John the Baptist who is the Son of Elizabeth and Zechariah (Matt. 3:4; John 1:21). Regards to his parents, the Angel of God was quite clear; John will be like Elijah, not Elijah himself (Luke 1:17). And to this, Jesus and John are not Elijah (literally), and in John's case, he isn't a reincarnation of Elijah for the reincarnation idea is not Biblical. John did the work as did Elijah had done in his lifetime. Sometime after John's death, Jesus went to a high Mountaintop with his followers and it was there that Jesus transfigured, whereas a vision is shown with Elijah and Moses concerning the things to come, hence the passage in association via reference - Mark 9:1-8; both Moses and Elijah were not really there, hence transfiguration and vision.

Your last response it was as if you were assuming John to be Elijah reborn.

As for the visions, Jesus was Transfigured, Moses and Elijah were of the vision but not really there, hence Mark 9:1-8 of what that event entails.

6 hours ago, Witness said:

I am sorry that you cannot see that another prophet calls for God's anointed priesthood/Temple "living stones" and dwelling of God,  to repent, a prophet sent in the manner of "Elijah".

I know Elijah is chosen, and of the Spiritual House, even corrected you before on this. Although Chosen, there is no evidence of Elijah literally living into the end of the 1st century. Prophet Malachi gave his prophecy 450 years after Elijah's death, before the New Covenant even came into effect, far from 33 AD (far away from c. 849 BCE)

6 hours ago, Witness said:

It is written in (Matt 17:11; Mal 3:1-4; 4:5,6)  Although they have dropped it, even the Wt. at one time called its people  the "Elijah class", the very people who are to listen the prophet's call.  (Rev 11:1-3;18:4-8;14:6-12)

Mentioning the Watchtower is irrelevant. Matthew 17:11 and in relation to Prophet Malachi's Prophecy concerning John the Baptist, not Apostle John. As already mention, although John the Baptist is not Elijah Reborn, his actions concerning the Message was equated to him before his death at the hands of Herod Antipas.

John, like Elijah did all he can, successfully, to restore the works, profess the message and move people's hearts, even Jesus was able to identify that John was like that of Prophet Elijah (Matthew 11:12-14; Mark 9:11-13) of the first century. Afterwards, there were people who did apply Elijah's zeal and example.

But regardless, this does not indicate the existence of Prophets Inspired with abilities that Prophets of old had, even that of the Christ.

6 hours ago, Witness said:

That would be you, confusing your Johns.   

I was focused on Apostle John, you were the only one here to bring up John the Baptist.

You confused them because my response towards was pretty clear of whom I was talking about for a couple of pages, until you brought up Matthew 17:11 which was concerning John the Baptist. Moreover, it would have been pretty obvious because it was clear of the only Apostle to live out the end of the 1st century, close to the 2nd century - it was not John the Baptist.

Evidence below

  

On 3/20/2022 at 9:45 PM, Space Merchant said:

@Witness The Them remark was in regards to you and Srecko, granted originally you made the thread about False Prophets.

The Chosen has nothing to do with the non-existence of Prophets Inspired after Apostle John. Therefore, you cannot name one, or call to existence any who came forth after John. For if his students were simply Prophets Inspired, it is 100% accurate to note no Prophet Inspired existed afterwards, especially with the events of 325AD and onward.

As a side note there were Chosen who were indeed Prophets Inspired, but these persons were around John's time, and the majority died out, with the last of Inspired Prophets to remain alive was Apostle John himself, hence Apostle Paul's message to the Corinthians in his First letter regarding of such a time to come.

What is highlighted in red, resulted in your sudden response of the Baptist.

Ignatius and Polycarp were students of Apostle John, not John the Baptist.

 

Next time, best to read what was said before you make the latter remark, this isn't the first time we spoke about the Spiritual House

 

That being said, since you brought up John the Baptist as is Elijah, my response of the distinction was clear, as is to root out what people assume without context.

[Space Merchant]

6 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Vast areas of land in Ukraine and Belarus remain off limits due to radioactive contamination, but plant life in these areas is flourishing (Credit: Getty Images)

You may want to look into that further, as it was already told about Ukrainian Propaganda being in full force. Likewise with the article of which you presented that was pretty much a move to get Croatia into a False Flag situation.

[Space Merchant]

2 hours ago, Dmitar said:

Does this image prove people can enjoy life within that flourishing area?

Not to mention propaganda affiliation. But as pointed out, not many is keen on research and will often eat up what the MSM says to them.

But you know, truth is the first causality of war. Especially when there is an ongoing Information War that is ongoing.

[Pudgy]

44 minutes ago, Space Merchant said:

You may want to look into that further, as it was already told about Ukrainian Propaganda being in full force. Likewise with the article of which you presented that was pretty much a move to get Croatia into a False Flag situation.

I have firsthand knowledge of radioactive dirt being distributed over many square miles of area in South Carolina at the Savannah River nuclear site the idea being that the rain would put the radiation into the ground And the trees would suck it up and it would be evaporated from the leaves in such small molecular amounts that the wind would carry it away harmlessly. Of course the entire site is about 640 mi.² and it has Cloverleaf like interchanges like the interstate – on site behind the secure area.

The very first nuclear reactor in the United States to produce tritium, reactor K, sits in an open field all rusted up, filled with concrete and there’s a signed one wire perimeter fence approximately 200 feet away to keep people out ….. pretty much on the honor system.

If it’s a sunny day today, step outside and look at the sky and you’ll see a fusion reactor with absolutely no shielding at all, the size of a small yellow star, blazing away, converting hydrogen into helium and out putting all manner of hard radiation…… But it is 93,000,000 miles away.

As long as you don’t actually get a sunburn, this radiation is necessary for human life in the production of vitamin D. , AND ALL LIFE ON EARTH.

….. by the way, bananas are radioactive with radioactive potassium, but if you eat 900 a day, the potassium will kill you, stopping your heart, and not radiation.

and as an aside … REAL men never set their Phasers on “stun”.

[Space Merchant]

@Pudgy Well that's in the States of course. But now that you mention it, toxins is polluting the water and the air, as is lead in the water, etc. A lot of this stuff is hushed away by political powers and only brought up when someone says something. Not only such things effect the people, but the animals, and speaking of animals, whatever they consume, later on (such as fish, chickens, beef, etc.), should a person consume said animal, there is a build up, for it is not only the drugs and hormones that they fed to people, but chemically induced livestock without the people's knowledge.

Granted some people are in a dire situation, they will consume anything, even if the livestock is effected somehow, their desperation devoid them of rational thought.

As for Ukraine, a lot of Propaganda, and as of recent they're associating it that those who say otherwise are Conspiracy Theorist and or affiliated with Qanon.

For lies only benefit them in order to hide or break the truth, we have seen a big example of this with Biden's Son, Hunter, for lies were professed only to put a mentally broken man in power of the United States, in which begets, a series of events which will later effect the common folk indirectly when the Culture War intensities, with a possibly of Systematic Warfare.

That being said, it is absurd to the fact such ones are using the blame Russia card for their own actions, as is, the Racism towards Russians, for Facebook is advocating for such behavior.

 

Also as a side note, because of speculation and fears, people are buying an insane amount of Potassium Iodide.

[Pudgy]

Good idea!

[Srecko Sostar]

5 hours ago, Dmitar said:

Does this image prove people can enjoy life within that flourishing area?

Your original  objection was about the plants (roses). The answer was related to that type of objection.
............. People? There is never peace with them. People are too (radio)-active by themselves, on their own.  

[Srecko Sostar]

3 hours ago, Space Merchant said:

Mentioning the Watchtower is irrelevant.

No, especially because we are ALL participants of debates under JW Open Club.  

[Srecko Sostar]

3 hours ago, Space Merchant said:

You may want to look into that further, as it was already told about Ukrainian Propaganda being in full force. Likewise with the article of which you presented that was pretty much a move to get Croatia into a False Flag situation.

But are animals around Chernobyl getting cancer, 30 years after the accident?

“It's very rare that we see cancer in wild animals, regardless of radiation levels,” Brown says.

- https://sciencenorway.no/forskningno-norway-radioactivity/can-animals-and-plants-tolerate-more-radioactivity-than-us/1431783

In fact, a debate roils in the scientific literature about the health of the microbes, fungi, plants and animals that live around Chernobyl. Some scientists have documented thriving wildlife now that people have left, suggesting that lingering radioactive contamination doesn’t pose a significant threat. But other scientists have found mostly negative effects of radiation on the health and abundance of creatures, from birds to mammals, with many populations smaller in more heavily contaminated areas. This controversy has only sharpened in recent years. - https://knowablemagazine.org/article/food-environment/2022/scientists-cant-agree-about-chernobyls-impact-wildlife