BETHEL'S BIG SECRET

[Space Merchant]

25 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

The third factor that belongs to these two, verified evidence and opinion, is also faith.

How will you prove with verified facts that someone in the past was “inspired by God” to write a written text? There is only someone’s faith that proves for or against. One’s belief that every biblical book was written under the inspiration of HS, is his attitude and his personal opinion which is not crucial to the other person. Someone’s opinion of his own belief in something is not proof that he is right. It is already/only his interpretation of his own personal spiritual experience.

Do you believe/have faith that archive.org is the official site of WTJWorg?

Then let us do True Witness vs False Witness as is in respects to 1 John 4:1. A verse hat one can't really disrespect here unless you are like your cohorts.

Then answer this, were the Jehovah's Witnesses the first and primary target of Hilter's Nazi Regime as @Witness video from the ExJW Bethel attested to? Do they teach their faith community they it was them alone? For his notation was that the JWs were the first targeted instead of the Jews and others 1933 and onward.

Remember, he attritbued this to a big secret, even pulling and archived 1930s source (Archived Associated) that has nothing to do with what he conveyed.

Also note that Witness deemds this video as factucal despite not being aware that bais opinions and claims were made.

I ask you this question because you coined Agenda. The reponse can deduce a mulitidue of things.

 

The spotlight is on you.

[Srecko Sostar]

45 minutes ago, Space Merchant said:

But now you have to disqualify the Archives, which is impossible. That is the issue here. If the Archives were never a notation, then Jehovah's Witnesses would indeed be in error - however, this isn;t the case.

If someone is hidden, the archives would be non-existent, let alone the history of the CD/DVD notation.

That being said, Privacy Laws, layers, Infustrature, etc, have been coined before, and it is among the reason why Dmitar is on the loose here.

Ironically, we did speak on Privacy issues before, as with Archives. This goes for any present JW here also.

 

26 minutes ago, Space Merchant said:

I am refering to Archived publications, not the website. Nice try.

I think there is a simple explanation for why something is called a library and something else an archive.

What is officially displayed by WTJWorg is a JW library...... and not a JW archive.

 

The main difference between archive and library is the type of content they house. Archives typically contain unique and rare public records or historical materials, while libraries contain various reading and study materials. - https://pediaa.com/what-is-the-difference-between-archive-and-library/

 

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Libraries in towns (public libraries) or universities (academic libraries) can generally be defined as “collections of books and/or other print or nonprint materials organized and maintained for use.”* Patrons of those libraries can access materials at the library, via the Internet, or by checking them out for home use. Libraries exist to make their collections available to the people they serve.

Archives also exist to make their collections available to people, but differ from libraries in both the types of materials they hold, and the way materials are accessed. - https://www2.archivists.org/usingarchives/whatarearchives

[Space Merchant]

8 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

I think there is a simple explanation for why something is called a library and something else an archive.

What is officially displayed by WTJWorg is a JW library...... and not a JW archive.

 

The main difference between archive and library is the type of content they house. Archives typically contain unique and rare public records or historical materials, while libraries contain various reading and study materials. - https://pediaa.com/what-is-the-difference-between-archive-and-library/

 

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Libraries in towns (public libraries) or universities (academic libraries) can generally be defined as “collections of books and/or other print or nonprint materials organized and maintained for use.”* Patrons of those libraries can access materials at the library, via the Internet, or by checking them out for home use. Libraries exist to make their collections available to the people they serve.

Archives also exist to make their collections available to people, but differ from libraries in both the types of materials they hold, and the way materials are accessed. - https://www2.archivists.org/usingarchives/whatarearchives

An Archive is a collection of historical documents or records providing information about a place, institution, or group of people; they are also interconnected in some way shape or form, even if the legitmate information is no longer present in some domain or median. Archives can be in form of Data, reasons why I mentioned Network Instrutures and Domains. Therefore impossible to prove otherwise of which you are doing. Also your link ultimately hurts Witness here, as with you. Therefore, I thank you showing your calims cannot beat the facts.

Also, really? The first searched item on Google in seconds? Not a good look. Truly.

This ifnormation is not ailen to anyone, even JWs, i.e. their facinsation of a specific Archive mentioned already.

That being said, I believe someone was asked of you, it pretains to the archive source about WW II.

[Srecko Sostar]

5 minutes ago, Space Merchant said:

An Archive is a collection of historical documents or records providing information about a place, institution, or group of people; they are also interconnected in some way shape or form, even if the legitmate information is no longer present in some domain or median. Archives can be in form of Data, reasons why I mentioned Network Instrutures and Domains. Therefore impossible to prove otherwise of which you are doing.

This ifnormation is not ailen to anyone, even JWs, i.e. their facinsation of a specific Archive mentioned already.

That being said, I believe someone was asked of you, it pretains to the archive source about WW II.

You can say what you want. And you can continue too. :))  Ordinary JW members do not have access to the JW archive, but only to the JW library. 

[Space Merchant]

18 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

You can say what you want. And you can continue too. :))  Ordinary JW members do not have access to the JW archive, but only to the JW library. 

Yet examples were already presented. As with the facts, I didn't give my own word to anything, it is known facts that are always used as with alluding to Scripture. I haven't changed on that notation for the time I have been here, even here in this thread.

Therefore, regarding the Holocaust, is this true or not in regards to the video, this pretains to the 1930s source of which you attest JWs do not know about.

Seems to be you are attempting to deviate, if you need a reminder of what was posed, read the below

47 minutes ago, Space Merchant said:

were the Jehovah's Witnesses the first and primary target of Hilter's Nazi Regime as @Witness video from the ExJW Bethel attested to? Do they teach their faith community they it was them alone? For his notation was that the JWs were the first targeted instead of the Jews and others 1933 and onward.

Remember, he attritbued this to a big secret, even pulling and archived 1930s source (Archived Associated) that has nothing to do with what he conveyed.

You even coined the term Agenda. The question posed will show the truth of the matter.

Hypotehically speaking, if the JWs didn't know, then their notation of the Holocause would be different, more so, if the events played out different in the Segregation Era, Jehovah's Witnesses would most certainly not have existed, perhaps their HQ in Warwick would have been an ara where the American Dream would have been built, who knows. Both you and Witness might have become Durbinites, possibly.

That being said, facts were presented for the archives, you do atetst otherwise, shows you adhere to falsehood, granted, everyone is aware of these old publications, the predesscor of JWs were around to even publish such material.

This I can tell you, one of the reasons I am Anti-agenda is in regards to those who try to re-write the history, namely anything related to the Holocaust. The Agenda shifts the history so much so to fool people, therefore, people sucha s myself, see this as a problem, as is with historical events in history be it in the US or outside of it. As we speak  cesnorship fo truth is already a problem and in regards to censorship, it not only hides information but removed/alters archives in an attempt to shift the narrative. A really bad look.

[Srecko Sostar]

20 minutes ago, Space Merchant said:

Yet examples were already presented. As with the facts, I didn't give my own word to anything, it is known facts that are always used as with alluding to Scripture. I haven't changed on that notation for the time I have been here, even here in this thread.

Therefore, regarding the Holocaust, is this true or not in regards to the video, this pretains to the 1930s source of which you attest JWs do not know about.

Seems to be you are attempting to deviate, if you need a reminder of what was posed, read the below

You even coined the term Agenda. The question posed will show the truth of the matter.

Hypotehically speaking, if the JWs didn't know, then their notation of the Holocause would be different, more so, if the events played out different in the Segregation Era, Jehovah's Witnesses would most certainly not have existed, perhaps their HQ in Warwick would have been an ara where the American Dream would have been built, who knows. Both you and Witness might have become Durbinites, possibly.

That being said, facts were presented for the archives, you do atetst otherwise, shows you adhere to falsehood, granted, everyone is aware of these old publications, the predesscor of JWs were around to even publish such material.

This I can tell you, one of the reasons I am Anti-agenda is in regards to those who try to re-write the history, namely anything related to the Holocaust. The Agenda shifts the history so much so to fool people, therefore, people sucha s myself, see this as a problem, as is with historical events in history be it in the US or outside of it. As we speak  cesnorship fo truth is already a problem and in regards to censorship, it not only hides information but removed/alters archives in an attempt to shift the narrative. A really bad look.

Plenty of words. Nothing more. Admit, please, that JW members have a JW library, not a JW Archive.

[Space Merchant]

20 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Plenty of words. Nothing more. Admit, please, that JW members have a JW library, not a JW Archive.

Yet words have meaning with facts behind it. Not too long ago you speak boldy in regards to facts vs opinion. That said, of which was said, already stated as with the notation of the archives. Why go back now when a critical question to example 2 of the video is now ongoing?

Again, if you believe the video to be true, just as Witness believes it to be true, did the Nazi Regime take the action or not? All of a sudden another point from the video cocnerning history you are avoid it.

 

Why?

As a side note, you mentioned Croatia. The Independent State of Croatia was also invovled in the events of WW II in regards to History pretaining to the Nazi Regime.

All histroical accounts, even the archives pretaining this event, and Germany's dark past, states otherwise.

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You can react with a laugh all you want, the question still stands.

[Dmitar]

1 hour ago, Srecko Sostar said:

“Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time?"

No, there's a difference with resistance, and none conformist. 

[Dmitar]

51 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

What is officially displayed by WTJWorg is a JW library...... and not a JW archive.

Wow, a library is not an archive, even though some material is no longer displayed. I wonder how the Vatican Library and the library of congress feels about this gem? We are really making up for lost time, here.

[Srecko Sostar]

3 minutes ago, Dmitar said:

Wow, a library is not an archive, even though some material is no longer displayed. I wonder how the Vatican Library and the library of congress feels about this gem? We are really making up for lost time, here.

What is "wow" here? I already stated what you now finally admit. There is difference with library and archive. JW ordinary members have a access only to JW Library. 

[Space Merchant]

1 minute ago, Srecko Sostar said:

What is "wow" here? I already stated what you now finally admit. There is difference with library and archive. JW ordinary members have a access only to JW Library. 

But they do have access to archives of their choice. Hence the question addressed to you.

[Dmitar]

2 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

What is "wow" here? I already stated what you now finally admit. There is difference with library and archive. JW ordinary members have a access only to JW Library. 

Did I? Are we still in the same plane of existence? But if you insist, try this reference.

https://www.usa.gov/libraries