I have a question about your memorial.

[Matthew9969]

As you jw's pass the plate and glass from person to person in your black mass memorial, are disfellowshipped ones allowed to touch the plate and glass as well?

[Pudgy]

Your question is a based on TWO blatantly false assumptions and is a thinly disguised insult that legitimately deserves no response other than strong condemnation of the thought processes that spawned it.

[Matthew9969]

2 hours ago, Pudgy said:

Your question is a based on TWO blatantly false assumptions and is a thinly disguised insult that legitimately deserves no response other than strong condemnation of the thought processes that spawned it.

Please point out the false assumptions so I can possibly re-word my question. I will stand on the the Black Mass memorial, as there is evidence of the jw way of doing this is developed from pagan/satanic history. ..But all that aside.......is a disfellowshipped person allowed to even touch the plate and glass that is passed around the congregation? That is my question. Please stick to the question I asked and try to deflect the conversation.....dogs are so easily distracted.

[Pudgy]

1. Mass

2. Black Mass

You have presented no evidence to stand on…. roughly the equivalent of stating that the horse Mr. Ed lives on Mars. Two more False assumptions…. Unless you can provide HARD actual real EVIDENCE.

3. Yes, they do pass the Emblems. Christ’s sacrifice extends to all people of faith, no matter how they fail. That is the whole point.

I attended disfellowshipped for four years, and passed the Emblems, just like anyone else. 

[Pudgy]

That might be worth hiring a Klansman actor, to see God induced indoor lightning!

What do you figure, $300?

( …. during the passing of the unleavened bread chew some corn chips with his mouth open ….)

 

[Arauna]

6 hours ago, Matthew9969 said:

Please stick to the question I asked and try to deflect the conversation.....dogs are so easily distracted

Another insult - LOL

[Pudgy]

“Insults are the first and last resorts of cowards, and the incompetent”. -  somebody famous. 

[TrueTomHarley]

8 hours ago, Pudgy said:

You have presented no evidence to stand on

This calls to mind the legal case of a man whose healthy leg was amputated due to medical error in the hospital. Of course, the gangrenous one then also had to be amputated. He sought legal advice for a lawsuit but was told he didn’t have a leg to stand on.

[Thinking]

7 hours ago, Peter Carroll said:

most disfellowshipped ones who do venture out to the memorial run the risk of being destroyed instantly if their attitude is wrong or they disrespect the occasion , and touch the emblems ,but that rarely happens in the 21st  century

 

7 hours ago, Peter Carroll said:

most disfellowshipped ones who do venture out to the memorial run the risk of being destroyed instantly if their attitude is wrong or they disrespect the occasion , and touch the emblems ,but that rarely happens in the 21st  century

Simply not true…in other words ..rubbish …we have had disfellowshipped ones take the emblems…respect is paid to all….they often come back year after year so no instant destruction for anybody…how do we know who’s of the annoited?

 

 

 

[Patiently waiting for Truth]

5 hours ago, Thinking said:

Simply not true…in other words ..rubbish …we have had disfellowshipped ones take the emblems…respect is paid to all….they often come back year after year so no instant destruction for anybody…how do we know who’s of the annoited?

Now this sounds very much like an admittence that Anointed ones have been disfellowshiped. 

Now who would have disfellowshipped them ? Oh yes of course, non anointed elders. 

As for your comment "respect is paid to all".  That is not true in all congregations. 

[Matthew9969]

9 minutes ago, WalterPrescott said:

But all that aside.......is a disfellowshipped person allowed to even touch the plate and glass that is passed around the congregation? That is my question. 

Short Answer, YES!

If Judas was present in the last supper, the symbolic emblems are for the righteous and repentant.

When reading the account of the last supper in both Matthew 26:26-30 and Luke 22:14-23, it appears that Judas does join in the Lords supper. In Luke 22:19-20 Jesus distributes the elements, and then in Luke 22:21, He says "But behold, the hand of the one betraying Me is with Me on the table."

Thank you.

[Srecko Sostar]

15 hours ago, Thinking said:

…how do we know who’s of the annoited?

This question is completely in place. I believe that almost every JW will agree with the conclusion that it is not possible to know who is a member of 144,000 and who is not. From such a conclusion emerges another - No one can know and claim who is a member of the FDS class.
If the first claim (who is the anointed one) cannot be proven then the second (who is the FDS) can be proved even less.

Regarding self-proclamation or confirmation of self-proclamation from members of others who have also self-proclaimed themselves to be something, it is not worth discussing.