European Energy Crisis: Nord Stream 1 and 2 Pipelines Have Been Attacked

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[JW Insider]

 

In 2014, back when the US publicly admitted to plotting the coup in Ukraine (via WikiLeaks), Ms Rice admitted the overarching goal of weakening Russia's energy business by sabotaging their economy so that rich supplies of US energy would be favored over Russian energy.

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It's been suggested that NATO Article 5 should come into play, meaning that all NATO nations should now attack the United States on suspicion that it was the U.S. that just attacked a viable fuel supply for NATO countries like Germany.

[TrueTomHarley]

13 hours ago, JW Insider said:

It's been suggested that NATO Article 5 should come into play, meaning that all NATO nations should now attack the United States on suspicion that it was the U.S. that just attacked a viable fuel supply for NATO countries like Germany.

The real question, should the United States emerge as the culprit, will be the question of why. Is it to win business for American energy companies? Or is it to enforce a globalist view of breaking free from oil as a power source, in which case there would be many a sympathizer, if not co-conspirator, among their like minded ‘brethren’ in Europe who have satisfied themselves as to their own personal well-being.

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On 9/30/2022 at 9:58 AM, TrueTomHarley said:

Is it to win business for American energy companies? Or is it to enforce a globalist view of breaking free from oil as a power source

Haven't seen much evidence for the validity of the second part of that question. The idea that the US would push for a proxy war against Russia in Ukraine has been public even for many years prior to the US coup that replaced the president in 2014. Even Biden stated many years prior that the way to get Russia involved would be to push for more NATO countries, including Ukraine, along the Russian border.

Also, Rice was not the only person to admit that Europe needs to be forced into a greater dependence on US energy. It's a well-known, and sometimes openly admitted goal of US war in the Middle-East to gain control over the energy resources. Trump admitted it openly at least once. The very reason that the US continues to occupy about a third of Syria has been to continue stealing control of its oil. The commission that looked into whether Assad (Syria) actually "gassed his own people" had actually already debunked it, although the debunking was from the same people who would later change their story. Libya was building up better relations with the US, when Gaddafi started pushing for national control of the oil resources, and cooperation among African nations. It is not really a secret that this is why Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and others decided to murder him (and laughed about it).

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32 minutes ago, TrueTomHarley said:

Is it to win business for American energy companies?

I don't think that was the only reason. Several countries in Europe would not be ready to stand by the US-sponsored sanctions against Russia (because they don't want their citizens to be faced with cold this winter). They were still compromising on the economic sanctions, but would have no more reason to compromise if the pipelines were sabotaged.

The US/NATO war against Russia which is being accomplished by using the Ukrainian people as cannon fodder is a war where Russia has tried to negotiate a peaceful solution for years. Since 2014, Ukraine has bombed and tortured its own Russian-speaking citizens in the Donbas regions, killing at least 14,000 of them just in the last 8 years. In fact, when Russia pulls out of a region, Ukraine uses it as an excuse to continue bombing their own Russian-speaking populations there even during this war. Russia has been trying to support the Russian-allied Donbas regions going all the way back to the Minsk agreements. Even during this war, Russia has offered to negotiate and the West has interfered with these negotiations. Boris Johnson even openly intervened at a point when it seemed Ukraine was ready for peace. Remember that the BILLIONS of dollars in military aid, is not free from the US military contractors. They still get paid through US citizen's tax dollars and payments approved from Ukraine's puppet government, that the US set up there.

So the basic idea that makes even more immediate sense is that Germany and others now have no choice but to support the US war against Russia via Ukraine.