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[Allen Smith]

1 hour ago, Pudgy said:

But … it’s not up to me to prove suicide is NOT a sin … it’s up to you to prove it IS a sin,

I'm glad you posted this, James. That just means I don't have to prove anything to you as well. What you do have to do is, prove yourself to God. I hope you have a mental picture when you get judged. Tell God how you animatedly believe suicide is not a sin, just because you don't understand scripture. 

Keep on mentioning to the public your false assertions that they may follow such ideologies. Maybe someone will take you up on your offer, which will make it a Blood guilt for you. Either way, you lose.

[Pudgy]

Do you …. um … have any valid references for your suppositions?

I believe suicide is not a sin … because  God NOWHERE says it is, and we have THREE examples.

[Anna]

9 minutes ago, Allen Smith said:

Most honest Christians faiths believe suicide is sin

Sure. And guess what, we all sin many times. And guess again, the wages sin pays is death. And you know what that means. 

[Amidstheroses]

2 hours ago, Pudgy said:

I have never been banned from either Twitter, or either of these forums here.

Again and again and again you prove my points.

why not just supply the SPECIFIC Scriptures I challenged you to cough up, before you suffocate on your own desperation?

Such arrogant and demeaning banter, Pudgy. I’m really surprised. I thought Allen Smith was doing an excellent job in representing the Scriptures accurately and some basic Christian ethics were being overlooked by his contenders.

From Young People Ask, Vol 2, p 307

What does baptism symbolize? Being immersed and raised up means that you have died to a self-seeking course and are now made alive to do Jehovah’s will.

Not one of us, in fact, lives with regard to himself only, and no one dies with regard to himself only.  8 For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah (Romans 14:7, 😎

What does it mean to dedicate your life to Jehovah? It means to give up ownership of yourself, promising to put the doing of God’s will ahead of all else. It’s fitting that you make a formal dedication in prayer to Jehovah sometime before your baptism.

Then Jesus said to his disciples: “If anyone wants to come after me, let him disown himself and pick up his torture stake and keep following me. (Matthew 16:24)

I will ask answer your questions Pudgy —

(I am going to Save this first because I just lost about 30 minutes of work on my iPad trying to answer it previously)

[Allen Smith]

6 minutes ago, Anna said:

Sure. And guess what, we all sin many times. And guess again, the wages sin pays is death. And you know what that means. 

That's the problem. I don't believe you fully understand the wages of sin. Just because we're imperfect, doesn't give a Christian, pretend or not the excuse or make it a justification to continue to sin

[Anna]

3 minutes ago, Allen Smith said:

excuse or make it a justification to continue to sin. 

I didn't say iimperfection was an excuse or justification to sinning. We all sin, that is just fact. No matter how hard we try not to. Don't you know that this is the reason Jesus gave his life for us? We wouldn't have a leg to stand on otherwise. 

[Allen Smith]

1 minute ago, Anna said:

I didn't say it gave an excuse or justification to sinning. We all sin, that is just fact. No matter how hard we try not to. Don't you know that this is the reason Jesus gave his life for us? We wouldn't have a leg to stand on otherwise. 

How would you justify to the public Romans 6:23 as you relate with suicide. You just said it. Christ paid a heavy price for our mortals souls. Does a person committing suicide value that sacrifice?

[Pudgy]

Did Jesus sin, DELIBERATELY walking into a trap with a  100% chance of getting killed?

 “Suicide-by-COP” is still suicide, even if the COPs are Roman Soldiers.

[Allen Smith]

Now who's desperate, James. The most outrages example about Christ. Are you sure you're not related to "witness?"

[Anna]

3 minutes ago, Allen Smith said:

Does a person committing suicide value that sacrifice?

A person committing suicide is not thinking rationally.

[Allen Smith]

@Anna, @Thinking The purpose of scripture is not to interpret like the Pharisees.

(James 4:13-17) 13 Come, now, you who say: “Today or tomorrow we will travel to this city and will spend a year there, and we will do business and make some profit,” 14 whereas you do not know what your life will be like tomorrow. For you are a mist that appears for a little while and then disappears. 15 Instead, you should say: “If Jehovah wills, we will live and do this or that.” 16 But now you take pride in your arrogant boasting. All such boasting is wicked. 17 Therefore, if someone knows how to do what is right and yet does not do it, it is a sin for him.
 

Is suicide RIGHT?!!!!

[Pudgy]

5 minutes ago, Pudgy said:

Did Jesus sin, DELIBERATELY walking into a trap with a  100% chance of getting killed?

 “Suicide-by-COP” is still suicide, even if the COPs are Roman Soldiers.

Tell me exactly WHAT about my statement is not true!