Can JW Television (digital news) be trusted?

[Pudgy]

What you have written sounds like copy and paste from somewhere else, and my first thought was how that does make some sense because you’re preaching to the choir, and they’re singing their own tunes, And it’s not like their really paying any attention to it, anyway.

Do you know those people in New York City that walk down the street yelling out loud and waving their arms and hands at nobody in particular?

I thought it would be a great idea to get two of them, and duct tape them together so they would have someone to talk to.

 

[Pudgy]

whew!

[Pudgy]

2 hours ago, Fausto Hoover said:

Even though you have been disfellowshipped, you still retain the freedom to hold onto your beliefs, even if they are completely incorrect, as evident from your previous posts.

Since I have identified that the individual is in a state of conflict, it is best to avoid any further engagement.

…. thank you for permission to hold onto my beliefs.

And here I thought you were going to try, try, try to strip me of any right to communicate or think. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.  (…. does a Michael Jackson Moonwalk backwards while attempting to fake a genuflect, but trips and gets head stuck in a bucket, which is a good thing as it suppresses the laughter of sarcasm …). 

And I agree, as a practical matter, It is best to avoid any further engagement with someone who recognizes pontifical piousnesst as funny, and enjoys ripping it to shreds.

You need an easier target or a bigger audience.

[Pudgy]

Whoaaaa!

A downvote!

using your criteria, does that mean we are engaged?

(…. flutters eyelashes and looks coy ….)

[Matthew9969]

Romans teaches that we are all sinners whether we like it or not. So technically all jw's should be disfellowshipped, even the un-baptized ones.

Difference between the cult of jw and the rest of christianity is with christians God forgives immediately, where as in the jw elders decide when God forgives.

[TrueTomHarley]

2 hours ago, Matthew9969 said:

Difference between the cult of jw and the rest of christianity is with christians God forgives immediately, where as in the jw elders decide when God forgives.

Not at all.

[Srecko Sostar]

8 hours ago, Fausto Hoover said:

It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened

Enlightened? You waited for Armageddon in 1914, 1925, 1940, 1975, until the end of the 20th century, until the end of the 1914 generation, until the end of the overlapping generation. You said that the vaccine is prohibited, then it is allowed, that organ transplantation is prohibited then allowed, blood transfusion is allowed, then it is prohibited, that blood fractions are allowed, then they are not, then some are and others are not.
What are you enlightened about?
Core teachings?
You have clergy and hierarchy like the Catholic Church. And you seek the same privileges as the religions of "Babylon the Great", so called. And you ask for that privileges from the political powers that you say are under the power of Satan. Enlightenment? Or maybe Hypocrisy? Opportunism?

[Pudgy]

10 hours ago, Fausto Hoover said:

Can sinners truly be forgiven immediately by God without expressing sincere repentance?

Jesus forgave the Roman Soldiers who were torturing him to death ….. WHILE THEY WERE DOING IT.

 

[Space Merchant]

23 hours ago, Matthew9969 said:

Romans teaches that we are all sinners whether we like it or not. So technically all jw's should be disfellowshipped, even the un-baptized ones.

Yes, every man, woman, and child are born sinners, this includes Jehovah's Witnesses, granted, all man, but the Christ, are imperfect. However, any born sinner in a faith community can be Excommunicated on grounds of willful sin, which, it can be determined by the church body, if that person should remain or not, and if in some cases it is serious (i.e. immoral conduct, such as sexual relations outside of wedlock and or adultery, etc.), the person can be removed, in this case, due to the JWs around here, disfellowshipped.

23 hours ago, Matthew9969 said:

Difference between the cult of jw and the rest of christianity is with christians God forgives immediately, where as in the jw elders decide when God forgives.

There is no difference. Among core teachings of Christianity is that yes, Christians should forgive, this goes with repentance, but at the same time, the repentance has to be genuine. Although at times it does go through those who are leading said church, be it a sole member or a body of people, for, if we need an example, there is Apostle Paul, and those who wrote letters to, such as Titus and Timothy, who, along with others who take the lead, hold office in governing the church for pure worship, although at times, some folks slip through the cracks such as Alexander and Hymenaeus.

Mainstream Christianity, will be quick to forgive without taking percussion, or knowing if the repentance is willful or not. Which, can lead to a number or problems, some of which I explained here several times, i.e. Gang stalkers within the religious space, regardless of the community.

The same can be applied to morals, and other things outside of the church, regarding family for they can pick and choose who they want to have around them.

Then there is another problem is exploited forgiveness and repentance, which in of itself, is, is a whole other can of worms.

That being said, legitimate cults or any of the few outside of the the Abrahamic Faiths practice a form of censure in the most severe form of expelling that isn't even in the same realm as the biblical form of excommunication, the end result is indefinite expulsion from all communities, religiously, by blood and community, and even if the person in question is seeking forgiveness, there is 0% (literally) chance of re-entering a community, in some cases, physical harm can be done to said person depending on the group, i.e. Church of the Almighty God (in China) which,

[A] Does not follow core teachings.

[B] Take violent action against members and or recruited members should they leave, and if they leave, the are expelled indefinite, and often times, end up as legitimate targets of assault.

[C] Lastly, not only they adopted some pagan traditions, they believe God is somehow a female and male at the same time.
 

[Space Merchant]

8 hours ago, Pudgy said:

Jesus forgave the Roman Soldiers who were torturing him to death ….. WHILE THEY WERE DOING IT.

Those soldiers most likely did not know any better, and what transpired after that, when Jesus was no more (Matthew 27:50-54). One of them wised up and said afterwards, Certainly this was God’s Son.

As for today, present day, people can fake forgiveness and or repentance, to not be observant of that, and to even attest to how the Mainstream sees such things, will enable more problems vs those who are not as vigilant outside of the Mainstream, many of these examples exist, even professed here.

That being said, I was dealing with some immoral folks (I am sure you heard the news, what I told Butler and @ApostaBabe Linda James came to fruition), debating them, so I got lost as to where this thread went to, from News to ARC, and suddenly repentance and 1975 again, which, ironically, can easily be shut down with a single question and recent actions of some about Russia.

[Pudgy]

28 minutes ago, Fausto Hoover said:

Why do opponents persist in utilizing the identical false narrative?

What identical false narrative are you talking about … and why are they false ?

I will be back in an hour or so to read your reply. It’s getting close to 7pm and I have to go in my back yard and rake up some invisible hay, for my invisible hippopotamus in the bath tub.

[Pudgy]

41 minutes ago, Fausto Hoover said:

Opponents and artificial intelligence alike can sometimes fail to discern the truth

Oh sure, I’ve caught ChatGBT IN MANY errors, but when I correct it, it apologizes, and does another search, then about 95% of the time, gets it right, or very close.

Credibility is based on a track record of being right. And how many times. And about what.

And like you, it does have a left wing “woke” agenda that skews its answers according to how it’s been programmed.